In this episode of Love for the Unseen God, Josh Thomas and Dr. Geoff Dugue talk candidly about what it means to walk through confusion, doubt, and disorientation while still grounding in faith. Drawing from their personal histories and spiritual turning points, they explore how moments of darkness often become invitations into deeper clarity.

Their conversation touches on somatic healing, the quiet distortions of shame and performance, and the way grace reorients us when we’ve tried too hard to “get it right.” They wrestle with how to interpret Scripture without weaponizing it, and why epistemic humility matters just as much in theology as it does in science.

In this episode of Love for the Unseen God, Josh Thomas and Dr. Geoff Dugue talk candidly about what it means to walk through confusion, doubt, and disorientation while still grounding in faith. Drawing from their personal histories and spiritual turning points, they explore how moments of darkness often become invitations into deeper clarity.

Their conversation touches on somatic healing, the quiet distortions of shame and performance, and the way grace reorients us when we’ve tried too hard to “get it right.” They wrestle with how to interpret Scripture without weaponizing it, and why epistemic humility matters just as much in theology as it does in science.

This second episode of Love for the Unseen God starts with the same intro as Episode 1—but don’t be fooled. What follows is a very different, deeply personal conversation that unfolded unexpectedly after the first recording wrapped.
Josh Thomas and Dr. Geoff Dugue continue their unfiltered exploration of faith, friendship, and spiritual awakening—this time leaning more into the lessons of the cross, the mystery of prayer, and what it means to walk with God when you don’t have it all figured out.

In this first episode of Love for the Unseen God, hosts Josh Thomas and Dr. Geoff Dugue open up about what led them to hit “record.” What began as unstructured conversations about God—filled with curiosity, conviction, and mutual respect—has become a space for honest dialogue across differences.